Convincing Christianity
 
    
    Ministry Update www.comereason.org October 2001

 

  

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    The Christian Experience

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Did Christianity Steal From Mithraism?

Skeptics claim that the idea of a savior dying for your sins, communion, 12 apostles and other features associated with Christianity actually came from the eastern belief of Mithraism, associated with Zoroastrianism. Is this true? Find out the facts in our new article located at: http://www.comereason.org/cmp_rlgn/cmp070.htm 


The Problem of Evil

Ever since the terrorist attack, people have been asking "How can there be a God who would allow this kind of evil in the world?" Is the idea of evil inconsistent with a belief in God? Read our two-part study on The Problem of Evil at: 
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How to Know God Exists Series
The Christian Experience

As we wind down our rather lengthy examination of God's existence, I want to offer one last point of evidence toward the proposition that God does indeed exist - the fact that people who become Christians experience a changed life.

One of the promises of Christianity is the believer will become "a new creation" (II Cor 5:17) and will be "born again" (John 3:16). This idea means that people will experience real change in who they are and in their very nature. This is why people who share Christ with others will use their testimony as a point of evidence to the reality of Jesus.

Of the arguments that we've discussed thus far, many might object at the idea of internal change as being a subjective one, and so it is. However, just because the change we speak of is subjective, that does not diminish its reality. Scientists study the effects of mood-altering drugs on patients, which can also be subjective, but they can with various degrees of certainty claim that it is the drug that is causing the patient's mood to be changed, and not other conditions.

Is The Experience Real?

The strength of this argument, then, lies in finding whether the changes are a real result of something happening outside the individual, or is it merely the belief of the individual himself that is causing the change. Dr. J.P. Moreland states the problem in this way, "It is possible to argue that all such experiences are merely psychological or perhaps the result of sociological factors like peer pressure. One could hold that some sort of placebo effect is going on."1

If such a placebo effect is occurring, then it is not God changing people's lives, but it is the people believing their lives are changed that are responsible for the said change. If this is true, then we don't prove God at all.

So, how can we determine whether a placebo effect is happening? Or how can we tell if some other factor is causing such a change? Moreland lays out three main points as to why we can claim the Christian experience as valid:

  1. The claim of personal religious experience of God doesn't deny psychological factors, it merely claims that they are not enough in themselves to explain a transformed life. This means that people will of course be subject to both social and psychological influences. However, these influences do not by themselves have adequate power to explain religious transformation. In fact, religious experiences exhibit properties that are unique to themselves.
  2. Attempts to reduce religious transformation to psychological factors must assume there are some common factors that would cause the similar experiences. However, as we see more diversity in the causes of people's lives being changed, that explanation becomes less likely to be true. In other words, as the sample size grows, and the backgrounds and other variables are eliminated as a common cause, the more difficult it is to ascribe such a change to a psychological cause.
  3. Finally, religious transformation in Christianity is tied to objective events (the resurrection) and an objective interpretive grid (the Bible) which render transformation probable. This point is perhaps the most important. These experiences are not based on only the belief of the subject, but they are linked directly to an event that is historically verifiable. The Bible also predicts that this type of experience would happen to the believer (as shown in the second paragraph above).2

Now, I am not arguing that we should accept all claims of religious experience as actual. We must approach these as we would any other truth-claims: in a discerning manner using the points I've outlined above.

How We Should Approach Subjective Truth Claims

Josh McDowell demonstrates how he approaches subjective claims. "There are two questions or tests I apply to a subjective experience. First what is the objective reality for the subjective experience, and second, how many other people have had the same subjective experience from being related to the objective reality?"

McDowell then goes on to use an example of a man who claims a fried egg over his ear gave him joy and peace, and shows how this flunks his test. However, when judging claims of changed lives from believing in the objective reality of Jesus Christ and His resurrection he says "the evidence is overwhelming. .. that truly millions from all backgrounds, nationalities and professions have seen their lives elevated to new levels of peace and joy by turning their lives over to Christ."3

Because there exists a vast number of people from all cultures over nearly two thousand years who made similar claims of transformation bolster our position that their experiences come from outside of themselves. And by understanding these three points, we can make a viable claim that God is really working in the lives of those who believe in Him and therefore He exists.

Next month we'll recap each of the points we've made for the existence of God and summarize our argument. I hope you'll join us then. Until next month, God bless.

 

 

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Notes:
1.  Moreland, J.P. Ph. D. Scaling the Secular City
Grand Rapids, Mich: Baker Books, 1987 233

2.  Ibid 233-234

3.  McDowell, Josh. Evidence That Demands A Verdict
San Bernardino, Ca: Here's Life Pub., 1989l 327-328

   

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